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El Bombardero
The HolyTrinity
Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:19 pm Posts: 8259 Location: In pot smoking hot redhead land
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 give me a .357 load
for these http://www.shop.rmrbullets.com/product.sc?productId=109&categoryId=13probably blue dot powder? or whatever bentley/thorbjorn uses also a load for .38 special with 157 grain lead wadcutters
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| Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:16 pm |
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Edub
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Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:28 pm Posts: 585
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 Re: give me a .357 load
My Lee manual doesn't have Blue Dot listed until you hit the heavier bullets.
Hornady 4th edition says for .357 Mag 125 grain XTP (Somewhat similar):
Blue Dot loads:
1450fps = 13.7 grains, 1500fps= 14.0 grains, 1550fps= 14.3 grains 1600fps (MAX)= 14.6 grains
Last edited by Edub on Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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| Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:51 pm |
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Edub
Sexy Beast
Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:28 pm Posts: 585
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 Re: give me a .357 load
.38 special 158gr lead with Blue Dot:
Starting: 5.8 grains = 919fps, Max 6.1 grains = 955 fps. Min OAL = 1.420"
___________________________________________________________________________ .38 special +P 158gr lead with Blue Dot:
Starting: 6.0 grains = 959fps, max = 6.3 grains = 995fps
Last edited by Edub on Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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| Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:59 pm |
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godlessdustin
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Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:08 pm Posts: 2205
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 Re: give me a .357 load
I hear unique is great for wheel gun loads. You already have that right?
My Lee book lists for a 125 grain jacketed bullet with unique starting at 8.7grains with a never exceed of 9.6grains. Minimum OAL of 1.570.
It doesn't have much info for 157grain lead.
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| Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:02 pm |
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Edub
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Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:28 pm Posts: 585
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 Re: give me a .357 load
Agree with Dustin, maybe just use Unique. I would.
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| Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:04 pm |
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Bentley
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Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:25 pm Posts: 2435
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 Re: give me a .357 load
You dont even need a loading manual. All of the most current load info is available on the manufacterers websites, free of charge. Accurate Arms #7 is a great magnum powder http://www.accuratepowder.com/wp-conten ... ta_3.5.pdfFor 125gr HDY XTP 10.9 starting to 12.1 do not exceed. 1.575 OAL, going 1278-1453 FPS Start on the lower end of the data with any of these since the bullet is only similar.
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| Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:15 pm |
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El Bombardero
The HolyTrinity
Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:19 pm Posts: 8259 Location: In pot smoking hot redhead land
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 Re: give me a .357 load
you guys are swell
_________________ "Once you've been first class Air France, an accidental drone strike on children makes sense." ~Duncan Trussell
"Americans love drugs. They like their country but apparently they can only face it stoned." ~Charles Bowden
There's gonna be a lot of slow singing and flower bringing if my burglar alarm starts ringing. ~Notorious B.I.G.
The government has as much of a right to control what I as an adult put into my body as it does what I put into my mind, it's none of their business. ~Judge Jim Gray
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| Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:01 am |
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Thorbjorn
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Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:02 pm Posts: 1006
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 Re: give me a .357 load
We just moved, so once I get to my load books and get them unpacked, I will get ya specific numbers.
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| Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:29 am |
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El Bombardero
The HolyTrinity
Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:19 pm Posts: 8259 Location: In pot smoking hot redhead land
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 Re: give me a .357 load
I guess I'm using unique, I just got 4 more pounds of it. I'll be getting some .38 loads done too.
_________________ "Once you've been first class Air France, an accidental drone strike on children makes sense." ~Duncan Trussell
"Americans love drugs. They like their country but apparently they can only face it stoned." ~Charles Bowden
There's gonna be a lot of slow singing and flower bringing if my burglar alarm starts ringing. ~Notorious B.I.G.
The government has as much of a right to control what I as an adult put into my body as it does what I put into my mind, it's none of their business. ~Judge Jim Gray
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| Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:41 pm |
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El Bombardero
The HolyTrinity
Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:19 pm Posts: 8259 Location: In pot smoking hot redhead land
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 Re: give me a .357 load
Oh yeah, I also have large pistol primers. is that right for .357/.38? I hope so because I got 1000 of them. i got 800 pieces of .38 brass today. so i have about 800 or so of .38 brass, and about 125 pieces of .357 brass. I'll be ordering 1k of these this weekend http://www.shop.rmrbullets.com/product.sc?productId=109&categoryId=13 and 1000 of these http://www.shop.rmrbullets.com/category.sc?categoryId=12what is the difference between plated and non plated?
_________________ "Once you've been first class Air France, an accidental drone strike on children makes sense." ~Duncan Trussell
"Americans love drugs. They like their country but apparently they can only face it stoned." ~Charles Bowden
There's gonna be a lot of slow singing and flower bringing if my burglar alarm starts ringing. ~Notorious B.I.G.
The government has as much of a right to control what I as an adult put into my body as it does what I put into my mind, it's none of their business. ~Judge Jim Gray
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| Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:04 am |
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Thorbjorn
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Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:02 pm Posts: 1006
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 Re: give me a .357 load
Sorry man, .357/.38 are small primers.
I should get to my reloading stuff this weekend.....
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| Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:30 am |
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Thorbjorn
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 Re: give me a .357 load
With plated they use a process to chemically or electrically deposit a layer of copper on the lead. With FMJ etc, they apply a piece of metal to the lead (or other) core.
_________________ .44 Magnum
Because small and light, or large and slow are not your only options.
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| Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:33 am |
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Bentley
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Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:25 pm Posts: 2435
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 Re: give me a .357 load
If you order by the 9th, use coupon code "summer" for 10% off all bullets from RMR. .38= small pistol primer .357= small magnum or small rifle. (you can use them in .38 too, just a lil hotter)
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El Bombardero
The HolyTrinity
Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:19 pm Posts: 8259 Location: In pot smoking hot redhead land
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 Re: give me a .357 load
aw s***. you can't use large at all? anyone need a thousand large pistol primers?
_________________ "Once you've been first class Air France, an accidental drone strike on children makes sense." ~Duncan Trussell
"Americans love drugs. They like their country but apparently they can only face it stoned." ~Charles Bowden
There's gonna be a lot of slow singing and flower bringing if my burglar alarm starts ringing. ~Notorious B.I.G.
The government has as much of a right to control what I as an adult put into my body as it does what I put into my mind, it's none of their business. ~Judge Jim Gray
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El Bombardero
The HolyTrinity
Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:19 pm Posts: 8259 Location: In pot smoking hot redhead land
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 Re: give me a .357 load
_________________ "Once you've been first class Air France, an accidental drone strike on children makes sense." ~Duncan Trussell
"Americans love drugs. They like their country but apparently they can only face it stoned." ~Charles Bowden
There's gonna be a lot of slow singing and flower bringing if my burglar alarm starts ringing. ~Notorious B.I.G.
The government has as much of a right to control what I as an adult put into my body as it does what I put into my mind, it's none of their business. ~Judge Jim Gray
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| Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:13 am |
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Thorbjorn
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Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:02 pm Posts: 1006
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 Re: give me a .357 load
You use large for .45's. It's better to keep them for now, you never know what you will end up doing later. Just as an aside, I just use regular small pistol primers for my .357 loads.
_________________ .44 Magnum
Because small and light, or large and slow are not your only options.
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| Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:20 am |
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Thorbjorn
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Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:02 pm Posts: 1006
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 Re: give me a .357 load
Ok, load of choice for sd .357 mag in the ruger is 158 gr XTP over 11.4 gr aa7. But that is only for the ruger.
For the 605 I load 158 gr XTP over 7.5 gr Unique. If you use that one, that should give ya a nice Magnum load at about 1200 fps out of a 4 inch barrel. Max is 7.8 and start at is 7.2
for 125 gr jacketed over Unique go:
5gr= start at for .38 to 5.3 5.2 to 5.6 for +p and 8.7 to 9.6 for Magnum
First number is start at, last number is do not exceed.
_________________ .44 Magnum
Because small and light, or large and slow are not your only options.
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El Bombardero
The HolyTrinity
Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:19 pm Posts: 8259 Location: In pot smoking hot redhead land
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 Re: give me a .357 load
I haven't scored the .357 bullets I need yet, just the lead wadcutters. So I used those to load 150 rounds of .38 last night. I found a recipe for 158 gr LSWC that used 4.3 gr of Unique. I did 50 at 4.3 and then got crazy and did 100 at 4.8
I figure going .5 grains up on the Unique wasn't going to break anything.
i made two mistakes. first was that I didn't have my die set right when trying to bell the cases, so I fucked up about 7 or 8 cases, way too belled.
second mistake was i finished loading a round and happened to notice when I was putting it away that it was missing a primer. I don't know how that happened. so after shaking all the powder out of the primer pocket, now I have a dummy .38 round.
_________________ "Once you've been first class Air France, an accidental drone strike on children makes sense." ~Duncan Trussell
"Americans love drugs. They like their country but apparently they can only face it stoned." ~Charles Bowden
There's gonna be a lot of slow singing and flower bringing if my burglar alarm starts ringing. ~Notorious B.I.G.
The government has as much of a right to control what I as an adult put into my body as it does what I put into my mind, it's none of their business. ~Judge Jim Gray
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| Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:48 pm |
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Thorbjorn
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Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:02 pm Posts: 1006
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 Re: give me a .357 load
As long as you're shooting out of a .357 you should be fine with that.
_________________ .44 Magnum
Because small and light, or large and slow are not your only options.
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| Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:06 pm |
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Bentley
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Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:25 pm Posts: 2435
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 Re: give me a .357 load
I have a few dummy rounds laying around myself...
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