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Why didn't you just buy something else?

need it for getting adjusted to it for future umm well just say i submitted a resume for some top notch places that deploy ...and they use the glock 19 ...so i want to get used to it before i go and train with them (hopeing) if not ...I already have a carry gun so i can go become a god**** wildlife pig :(


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no but what the f*** does that got to do with anything


Because the .357 is .357" and factory loadings run about 1400 fps for a 125 gr hp while the "p**** a**" 9mm is .355" and 124 gr +p hp loads run 1200, but if you think 200 fps 1 grain and .002" is enough to go from undisputed best self defense load to p**** a** waste of time, that's none of my business.


ok ill use this as a real life reference to why i hate both f***ing rounds the 9mm and the 5.56...Kirkuk Iraq... US soldiers in Humvees start getting shot at ..the soldiers that were dismounted ( :P) seek cover behind the vics as the gunners suppress the position with the 240 ...the c*** sucker took cover and returned fire with his Mosin Nagant hitting all around (his lack of accuracy) and our 5.56 falling short due to the range he was at finally as he bound much much closer he was hit several times by 5.56 and finally fell down the hill ...btw the c*** sucker still breathes and probly is back at shooting at soldiers ......and as far as 9mm ive seen two junkies in real life take multiple hits with 9mm and still go after a person (a good friend was one and i didnt know the other jack a**) ...yes its all about shot placement tho knock down power is also a big factor not many men can stand up to the power of a 45 ACP its usually a show stopper ...so keep backing these rounds and when you actually use it (esp)5.56 then im all ears


Like I said, I'm not specifically defending them. I'm just saying, look at the facts. Not anecdotal stories. Personally, I don't even use the p**** a** factory loads. Not when I can handload a hornaday 158 grain XTP at 1600 fps with nosler 180gr JST loaded to 1400 for assurances and use an M1 Garand for home defense. That's personal preference.

In my opinion the 5.56 is one step above a bb gun.

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It's weird that top notch mofo's use p**** a** 9mm.

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:haay: and yes if i dont like something ill call it a p**** and if something is a p**** i think it should be fucked ...aka Bashed...that's my opin your entitled to your own...just dont try and change/prove my opin wrong its usually is a waste of time


Bluntly, I did prove your opinion wrong. I can't help it if you still hold it. I do see that it would be a waste of time to change your mind. That doesn't matter, because that is not my goal anyway.

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It's weird that top notch mofo's use p**** a** 9mm.


they have to. contractors are required to follow NATO standards just as much as the military is

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how the hell you prove my opin wrong ? what because i don't consider a magnum a p**** round but still think 9mm is ?


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Case studies don't mean s***. Everyone can find a case study to support whatever stance they want to take.


You're correct, and in this instance your numbers don't mean s*** either they are a little out of context to fit the agenda you were trying to push, as I pointed out earlier (magnum vs overpressured +p). At the end of the day, I'm a shooter what matters to me is results and I've seen enough with my own eyes to know that 9mm isn't for me.

The interwebs is full of armchair numbers junkies that try hard to validate themselves. Doesn't work for me, I've spent enough time on the ground to know what works and what doesn't and I've seen firsthand the wounds caused by nearly the whole spectrum of small arms.

You like .357, that's great for you. Knock yourself out. This is a thread about Levi's "wittle" 9mm which he owns only out of necessity.


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Case studies don't mean s***. Everyone can find a case study to support whatever stance they want to take.


You're correct, and in this instance your numbers don't mean s*** either they are a little out of context to fit the agenda you were trying to push, as I pointed out earlier. At the end of the day, I'm a shooter what matters to me is results and I've seen enough with my own eyes to know that 9mm isn't for me.

The interwebs is full of armchair numbers junkies that try hard to validate themselves. Doesn't work for me, I've spent enough time on the ground to know what works and what doesn't and I've seen firsthand the wounds caused by nearly the whole spectrum of small arms.

You like .357, that's great for you. Knock yourself out. This is a thread about Levi's "wittle" 9mm which he owns only out of necessity.

oh s*** you remember that hadj that got pegged by the 240 dudes face was peeled back f*** i miss that photo


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what do you guys think about tracers? do you think tracers would be good? do you like tracers? I like tracers

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what do you guys think about tracers? do you think tracers would be good? do you like tracers? I like tracers


They're cool in movies.


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I've seen firsthand the wounds caused by nearly the whole spectrum of small arms.



please post pictures

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Leviticus wrote:
Deuce wrote:
Thorbjorn wrote:
Case studies don't mean s***. Everyone can find a case study to support whatever stance they want to take.


You're correct, and in this instance your numbers don't mean s*** either they are a little out of context to fit the agenda you were trying to push, as I pointed out earlier. At the end of the day, I'm a shooter what matters to me is results and I've seen enough with my own eyes to know that 9mm isn't for me.

The interwebs is full of armchair numbers junkies that try hard to validate themselves. Doesn't work for me, I've spent enough time on the ground to know what works and what doesn't and I've seen firsthand the wounds caused by nearly the whole spectrum of small arms.

You like .357, that's great for you. Knock yourself out. This is a thread about Levi's "wittle" 9mm which he owns only out of necessity.

oh s*** you remember that hadj that got pegged by the 240 dudes face was peeled back f*** i miss that photo

damn that c*** when she left took all my deployment pics ...esp that f***ing mosque that got raped by 3 suicide bombers ....the LT was barfing like a lil b**** he got pissed when i laughed at Ranger Rick for slipping on that finger ahahaha and stack almost in tears cause the baby incedent that turned out to be a leg not a baby


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what do you guys think about tracers? do you think tracers would be good? do you like tracers? I like tracers


They're cool in movies.



tracers are awesome

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I've seen firsthand the wounds caused by nearly the whole spectrum of small arms.



please post pictures


Not happenin' man, sorry. Too many bad things can come of that. Though if you're feeling froggy you can find plenty of GSW pics online.


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I've seen firsthand the wounds caused by nearly the whole spectrum of small arms.



please post pictures


Not happenin' man, sorry. Too many bad things can come of that. Though if you're feeling froggy you can find plenty of GSW pics online.

yup so true hammer of justice would f*** us up right in the asshole


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how the hell you prove my opin wrong ? what because i don't consider a magnum a p**** round but still think 9mm is ?


Yes. Didn't you read my f***ing post?

What I did not do is change your mind. You still hold to your opinion. It doesn't matter how wrong it is.

All you are showing is anecdotal evidence to support your stance. Run the numbers.

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Yep, think Abu Ghraib and you'll get the gist of why we can't post s***. Only pictures I ever post are pictures of us screwing around.

After I move and get things straightened out I can post video of Levi there choking out a guy twice his size. My desktop mysteriously died too, gotta get that figured out as well. :(


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Run the numbers.


Levi, what did I tell you? :gfight:


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what do you guys think about tracers? do you think tracers would be good? do you like tracers? I like tracers


They're cool in movies.

also cool from a 240 that is suppressing fire and you got to bound a click to the objective...kinda a moral boost..esp when you got a dumb a** 1st sausage and you have to do it over and over (in training) in real life you ignore the tracers you got bigger s*** on your plate to worry about ...esp when you got to clear house to house in one village


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Run the numbers.


Levi, what did I tell you? :gfight:

oh s*** you did call it
lol numbers over real life experience ? come on you gotta be kidding right


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